U.S. Congressman Paul Ryan Serving Wisconsin's 1st District

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Paul Ryan: HHS Mandate an Affront to Religious Liberty and a “Teachable Moment”
The Laura Ingraham Show

February 9, 2012


Laura Ingraham: Joining us now to talk about his speech at CPAC and also Congressional approval rating and the President’s bump up in the polls with not really an economic agenda to show for it, but nevertheless that’s where it is, Congressman Paul Ryan from Wisconsin.

Congressman Ryan: I’d be happy to stay with this issue if you want to actually.

Laura Ingraham: Since Nancy Pelosi is speaking with her fellow Catholics, what is Paul Ryan‘s Catholic take on this.

Congressman Ryan: As you know, you and I are both Catholics.  This to quote the President is “a teachable moment”. I would say it is not quite the lesson the President is hoping we would learn before the election.  It is a lesson of what happens when you apply the progressive philosophy of government.  You have “ObamaCare” and it is a philosophy that believes we now have government-granted rights and that the government’s job is to grant us our rights.

When those government-granted rights collide or conflict with our constitutional rights, well such is the sacrifice needed in the name of progress. So you have this new government granted right, health care, in collision with our First Amendment right of religious freedom and guess what is winning? It kind of surprises me that they are shocked at this backlash because the President and the Administration spoke to Catholic leaders, about this.  I remember having long talks with Bart Stupak and other Catholic Democrats back when they were passing this bill about this very issue.

Laura Ingraham: Well we knew this was going to happen, Congressman.  We knew it.

Congressman Ryan: We were telling them, “they’re going to rope-a-dope you.”  This is going to happen and, what happened is they did do this.  The “teachable moment” here is when we elect a president who brings this progressive philosophy to government they decide how our rights are going to be granted, given, and organized and if they clash with our First Amendment right of religious freedom or something else, then we know, who wins in that exchange. This is much, much bigger than about contraception.  This is about religious freedom, First Amendment rights, and how this progressive philosophy of fungible rights of a living breathing constitution really clashes and collides with these core rights that we built our society and country around.

Laura Ingraham: But isn’t this an issue that goes way beyond a Catholic institution?  I think it has been incorrectly couched as a Catholic issue.  This is an issue of conscience for all people.  I’m a small business owner, so my insurance would have to be mandating that I offer this coverage.  As a Roman Catholic, I find that abhorrent and I think there are a lot of other small business owners who don’t want to be forced to do this.  I think any compromise should not just focus on Catholic institutions.  The bishops should not even go there.  It should be a broad-based statement: no, we cannot be forced against our conscience, not against our faith but against our conscience, to provide these services.

Congressman Ryan: That is precisely the point I am trying to make which is the “teachable moment” is.  This isn’t a teachable moment just for Catholics who got duped.  This is a teachable moment for Americans who see that their constitutional rights could be next. They are being abridged in this instance so this goes beyond one church, this goes beyond one issue.

This goes into the progressive thinking that is behind these kinds of laws like “ObamaCare” and their implementation.  They slow-walked a lot of the regulations in “ObamaCare” as much as they could before the election.  This one moved and got out there.  This gives you a sense of what’s to come if this keeps continuing.

Laura Ingraham: End of life procedures are next, are they not?

Congressman Ryan: If you look at IPAB, that’s the Independent Payment Advisory Board, that’s being assembled this year.  It’s fifteen bureaucrats that the President appoints, and their job is to put price controls and edicts onto Medicare to tell Medicare providers how much they are going to get reimbursed, for what procedure, if where, when, and how. That to me simply leads to rationing. That to me is not having a patient-doctor relationship driven medical system.  It is a top-down bureaucratic edict and, what’s more insidious about this IPAB is there reforms or dictates can go right into law without Congress really doing anything about it.  That to me is another example of this kind of governing philosophy which takes control of our country away from we the people and gives it away to a bureaucratic elite. 

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